Werthead Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: How many times can the Tories do this and not hold a General Election? The Conservative Party expended vast amounts of energy and vitriol complaining about the coronation of Gordon Brown in 2007 by Labour without a general election and - to be fair to them - they did kind of stick to their guns by holding a general election after parachuting in Theresa May in 2017, and again after parachuting in Johnson in 2019. It's not a binding or legal precedent, but it has established this idea that if you change PM without consulting the country, you should consult the country within a reasonable timeframe. I suspect that their counter to that will be that with the next election due in ~2 years anyway, hosting a new general election now will be too expensive and too divisive given the events going on. But it's also very hard to argue that the party is capable of governing the country for that long if this kind of chaos continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pebble thats Stubby Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 I bet the General election now Partition gets a boost. 652,287 signatures as of now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 I can't begin to understand the mindset of anyone who might want this job now. The best case scenario is still terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 36 minutes ago, mormont said: There are no perfect solutions in politics. But at least MPs should be able to understand the constitutional significance of something they are being asked to vote on. I promise you they'll ignore it every time they need to. What a comedy shitshow. Here's to the shortest premiership in UK history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Only 3 more PMs til Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 If there is a GE and Labour wins a majority… will the UK (considering the Corbyn wing of Labour) continue to stand by Ukraine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltaran Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: If there is a GE and Labour wins a majority… will the UK (considering the Corbyn wing of Labour) continue to stand by Ukraine? Yes. The Corbyn wing has mostly gone (remember Corbyn himself had the whip withdrawn after the anti-Semitism report and hasn’t got it back yet) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Which Tyler Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Werthead said: This will be three, given that Cameron resigned of his own accord as a matter of conscience. Cameron had a conscience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pebble thats Stubby Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: If there is a GE and Labour wins a majority… will the UK (considering the Corbyn wing of Labour) continue to stand by Ukraine? The Corbyn wing is not in charge of Labour. and yes the UK will still support Ukraine. that is NOT in any doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, Pebble thats Stubby said: The Corbyn wing is not in charge of Labour. and yes the UK will still support Ukraine. that is NOT in any doubt. Thank you. I appreciate that. Given the crazies in the US “opposition party” it worried me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karaddin Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 When sorting out the whole "there can only be one [Liz]" I think you kept the wrong one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Which Tyler Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 28 minutes ago, Pebble thats Stubby said: I bet the General election now Partition gets a boost. 652,287 signatures as of now. Linky, in case anyone here hasn't already signed https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/619781 Going up by about 2 per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pebble thats Stubby Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Has Truss been PM long enough to earn money on the post PM speaking gig thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltaran Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Pebble thats Stubby said: Has Truss been PM long enough to earn money on the post PM speaking gig thing? No apparently. Another Tory MP called a cunt live in the News, albeit apparently by accident Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 So if there's a national emergency in the next week that *requires* an immediate decision by the prime minister; who gets to make it? I missed if Liz resigned effective immediately and if there was a caretaker PM in place until the next one's chosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pebble thats Stubby Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Fez said: So if there's a national emergency in the next week that *requires* an immediate decision by the prime minister; who gets to make it? I missed if Liz resigned effective immediately and if there was a caretaker PM in place until the next one's chosen. she is staying (at the mo) until the new one is decieded upon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Real question, if the Tories don't hold a GE and cling to power for the next two years, what's the over/under on number of new PMs in that time period? It seems like anyone who takes the job should prepare on day one for being sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IheartIheartTesla Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Speed dating until you hit upon the one: UK PM edition. The Tories outperformed in the last general election and had quite a robust majority; now it seems like the next round will be a landslide the other way. How can they have messed up so bad in so few years? At least it tells you partisanship isnt as big an issue in the UK as say in the US, and voters are still persuadable on the issues or are willing to punish failures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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