Groo Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 22 hours ago, James Arryn said: Even Chett…petty, murderous backstabbing vindictive shit that he is, his backstory might be the worst we see in the books, and my god that’s saying something. Am I missing something? He was mocked and insulted about his looks. Oh, and his dad had a kind of gross way of making money. That's your candidate for worst backstory in the books? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarn Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 The Hound, Jorah, Dany, and Lysa. Ser Arthurs Dawn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenin Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 I will never have any ounze of sympathy for Theon. Sorry, not sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard of Banefort Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 I wouldn’t say I have no sympathy for him, but I probably have less sympathy for Glendon Ball than I am supposed to. I get it, he’s insecure and an underdog and has a giant chip on his shoulder. But his arrogance (however feigned) is obnoxious, and there’s something genuinely creepy about assuming the name and kinship of someone who a) probably isn’t actually his father and b) he’s never met. It’s like if someone born the year after Elvis died changed their last name to Presley and showed up at an awards show expecting a place of honor in the front row. The fact that Fireball was a POS that forced his wife to join the silent sisters also doesn’t help. There’s also the little fact about him selling his sister for a knighthood. Maybe she was in on it and did so willingly, but it’s just as likely that he trafficked his sister to some creep so that he could be knighted. frenin, Morte and Hugorfonics 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugorfonics Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 3 hours ago, The Bard of Banefort said: I wouldn’t say I have no sympathy for him, but I probably have less sympathy for Glendon Ball than I am supposed to. I get it, he’s insecure and an underdog and has a giant chip on his shoulder. But his arrogance (however feigned) is obnoxious, and there’s something genuinely creepy about assuming the name and kinship of someone who a) probably isn’t actually his father and b) he’s never met. It’s like if someone born the year after Elvis died changed their last name to Presley and showed up at an awards show expecting a place of honor in the front row. The fact that Fireball was a POS that forced his wife to join the silent sisters also doesn’t help. There’s also the little fact about him selling his sister for a knighthood. Maybe she was in on it and did so willingly, but it’s just as likely that he trafficked his sister to some creep so that he could be knighted. Ain't nothin but a hound dog? I agree 100% with your post, I do however also think, that if preforming at an awards show hed move those hips, rhyme those bars and shred that guitar like only a Presley could The Bard of Banefort 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Commentator Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 I’ve no sympathy for Ramsay, Wayman, Jaime Lannister, and Jon Snow. The Gizzard of Oz and Bowen 747 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Is Wayman the love child of Waymar and Wyman? Prince of the North 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Stonehearts Simp Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Merrett Frey. Watching him cry and beg was cathartic, hopefully more dead Weasels are to come Terrorthatflapsinthenight9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowen 747 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Weymar Royce was an arrogant little prick who was unqualified to lead that party. Bran Stark. Jaime Lannister. Quentyn Martell, even if I liked his chapters, he tried to steal Dany's dragons. He deserved to get baked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Brewtown Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Dany. Maybe I had some sympathy for her early in the first book. But, she always came off as too entitled/stuck up. The ideal ending has her armies crushed, and her taken captive but not killed. Bran/the victorious Starks would show appreciation for their loyal bannerman by gifting her a a concubine to Jojen Reed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 5 hours ago, Lord of Brewtown said: Dany. Maybe I had some sympathy for her early in the first book. But, she always came off as too entitled/stuck up. Yeah, I agree. I used to like her character but that really began to wear on me. Don't get me wrong, she's trying to do good work in Slaver's Bay, but I just don't really like her character anymore. In fact, I used to really like House Targaryen, but then I read Fire and Blood and it put me right off them, for the same reason. And also they could not do anything without the dragons. I thought someone called Aegon the Conquerer would be a better military strategist. But no, every battle can be summarised as: the Targaryens' much smaller army decided to engage a superior foe and was losing, then the dragons showed up. What was the point of even having their army attack in the first place? The dragons did all the work. He just got his men killed for no reason. 5 hours ago, Lord of Brewtown said: The ideal ending has her armies crushed, and her taken captive but not killed. Ideally her armies don't land in Westeros in the first place and she stays to help the people of Slaver's Bay, who actually want her there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astarkchoice Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 On 1/26/2023 at 9:20 PM, frenin said: I will never have any ounze of sympathy for Theon. Sorry, not sorry. Come on Given what he may have 'lost' and having to hear the ironborn say theyl rise 'harder' has gotta sting everyntime Craving Peaches and Northern Sword 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood__wyrm Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Don't know why but I can't bring myself to hate ramsay , cersei and tywin Only characters I truly hate are Joffery and janos slynt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverGhost Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Janos Slynt - One of the little things about him that always got me extra angry was the fact that he had many men of the watch paying him part of their salaries as bribes for their positions. There are a lot of bad leaders in the series but taking from your own men, from the money they need to feed their families, is really petty. Ramsay Snow - Just an absolute shithead. Roose Bolton - When you go back and reread knowing what Ramsay will do in ACOK and what he will do in ASOS you can see just how evil he is. How many Northern Lords and respected commanders he gets captured or killed, how much he fucks over Robb, and how he was always out for himself even before the Red Wedding. Northern Sword and Terrorthatflapsinthenight9 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astarkchoice Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 1 hour ago, SilverGhost said: Janos Slynt - One of the little things about him that always got me extra angry was the fact that he had many men of the watch paying him part of their salaries as bribes for their positions. There are a lot of bad leaders in the series but taking from your own men, from the money they need to feed their families, is really petty. Ramsay Snow - Just an absolute shithead. Roose Bolton - When you go back and reread knowing what Ramsay will do in ACOK and what he will do in ASOS you can see just how evil he is. How many Northern Lords and respected commanders he gets captured or killed, how much he fucks over Robb, and how he was always out for himself even before the Red Wedding. Roose your forgetting raping a mans wife to make ramsay and killing the poor man for not asking permission to marry (how may others on his land has he raped?) ! The way he reacts to ramsays crimes is that hes done the same himself and just wants it to stay quiet + i doubt the original reek was the one to teach ramsay how to be an expert with a flaying blade either. Terrorthatflapsinthenight9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverGhost Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 1 hour ago, astarkchoice said: Roose your forgetting raping a mans wife to make ramsay and killing the poor man for not asking permission to marry (how may others on his land has he raped?) ! The way he reacts to ramsays crimes is that hes done the same himself and just wants it to stay quiet + i doubt the original reek was the one to teach ramsay how to be an expert with a flaying blade either. Yes. Listing all of the reasons why Roose is awful would take all of my Sunday. I was just pointing out some side reasons that were in my head at the moment. Terrorthatflapsinthenight9 and astarkchoice 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castellan Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 (edited) On 1/23/2023 at 9:49 AM, James Arryn said: Hmmm…hard to answer. Say Ramsay. Hate him. Least favourite character in the books. But do I think he’s without anything worthy of sympathy? With Roose raising him according to the How To Make Psychopaths cookbook? No, that sounds horrible. And we hear he’s been mocked for his appearance all his life, which is no less victimizing than it is for Brienne or Tyrion. Similarly anyone raised by Tywin. Even Chett…petty, murderous backstabbing vindictive shit that he is, his backstory might be the worst we see in the books, and my god that’s saying something. I can say there are characters like the Mountain about whom, possible medical theories aside, we are given no factors that contributed to his being a monster. Ergo no reason to sympathize. still, as he is now he is so completely terrifying I can feel no sympathy just a great desire to kill him. I even feel more sympathy for Biter than for Ramsay! Similar cases. No sympathy for Janos Slynt he is the essential human crumb. Edited May 28, 2023 by Castellan Terrorthatflapsinthenight9 and LongRider 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Sidious Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 I have no sympathy for Jon Snow. I’d rather he stay dead and gone. He was given the duty to guard the Wall and lead the Watch. He screwed it all up for Arya and the other Starks. astarkchoice and The Gizzard of Oz 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Abreu Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 No sympathy for most of the Slaver’s Bay characters, even the ones that seem to have turned to Daenerys. The Florents around Stannis as well, including the queen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifth Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 (edited) Gregor and all of his men. Just horrible people all around, possibly the worst characters in the series, with Ramsay being the only person to come even close. Edited May 29, 2023 by sifth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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