Zorral Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 5 hours ago, IlyaP said: My father groaned while watching the movie, despite not being a Roman scholar, as he knew enough history that it took him out of the movie. The very idea that Marcus Aurelius was concerned with restoring the Republic after all those centuries! Stirrups! Riding a single horse all the way from wherever on the other side of the Alps to Hispania! In a couple of days! IlyaP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Rodrigo Belmonte II Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 4 hours ago, Zorral said: The very idea that Marcus Aurelius was concerned with restoring the Republic after all those centuries! Stirrups! Riding a single horse all the way from wherever on the other side of the Alps to Hispania! In a couple of days! To be fair, even during the Roman Empire, Romans themselves still referred to it as a Republic right? And the Emperor as First Citizen? They wanted to maintain the facade of the Republic, so maybe Aurelius meant restoring the 'Republic'(Current Empire) back to its glory days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Ser Rodrigo Belmonte II said: To be fair, even during the Roman Empire, Romans themselves still referred to it as a Republic right? And the Emperor as First Citizen? They wanted to maintain the facade of the Republic, so maybe Aurelius meant restoring the 'Republic'(Current Empire) back to its glory days? There was no facade about Republic by his time. It was the era of the apex of Empire -- Aurelius's father was Hadrian's nephew, making Marcus Aurelius Hadrian's grand-nephew. People who talked of the Republic would be in danger -- at the very least -- of being labeled traitors, not anything anyone wanted to be accused of already, long ago, and particularly starting in the days of Domitian - who wasn't even a nut case like Caligula. Nor does one see any longing for the Republic in Aurelius's writings. Edited November 24, 2023 by Zorral Wilbur, Ser Rodrigo Belmonte II and IlyaP 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryk Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Even though I love Gladiator I always thought the story was pretty naff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Gladiator: the second best revenge movie by a Scott brother to have Lisa Gerrard singing at the end. JGP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Vader Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 (edited) Can't do justice to this man in 2.5-3 hours. The movie couldn't possibly cover all of it, let alone just his battles. Edited November 25, 2023 by Chad Vader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 Doing well at the box office. Hope this will lead to more historicals! williamjm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 14 hours ago, Zorral said: Doing well at the box office. Hope this will lead to more historicals! BUT WITHOUT TAKING ANY ARTISTIC LICENCE AT ALL!!!!!! Zorral 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loge Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 20 hours ago, Zorral said: Doing well at the box office. Hope this will lead to more historicals! Actually, it's not doing all that well, but it doesn't have to because it was made for Apple's streaming service. Ser Rodrigo Belmonte II 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Rodrigo Belmonte II Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 I saw it. Other than the battle sequences which reminded me of Empire Total War(in a good way) I didn’t enjoy this movie guys. I didn’t get to know Napoleon at all by the end, his relationships with his army (why do they like him at all), Josephine is the only decently written character but it wasn’t enough for me. I also think at a certain point the movie jumps ahead waay to quickly, completely skipping the peninsular war and other major events in his life….i hope the Steven Spielberg documentary turns out to be better. Enjoyed the last duel and the duellists way more then this, both set in the same time period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 15 minutes ago, Ser Rodrigo Belmonte II said: I saw it. Other than the battle sequences which reminded me of Empire Total War(in a good way) I didn’t enjoy this movie guys. Its a bad sign if it reminded you of Empire Total War and not Napoleon Total War. Corvinus85 and Ser Rodrigo Belmonte II 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Rodrigo Belmonte II Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Heartofice said: Its a bad sign if it reminded you of Empire Total War and not Napoleon Total War. Haha I don’t play Napoleon cause I’ve modded Empire to have the game in it for free so dont worry that’s covered! They actually showed square formations and cavalry charges in the Waterloo scenes which looked exactly like the games. CA used to be so good at this stuff. Edited November 27, 2023 by Ser Rodrigo Belmonte II Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Ser Rodrigo Belmonte II said: Haha I don’t play Napoleon cause I’ve modded Empire to have the expansion in it for free so do t sorry that’s covered! Oh shame, I always preferred Napoleon TW. It might in fact be the reason I am excited to see this movie. Ser Rodrigo Belmonte II 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 4 hours ago, Loge said: Actually, it's not doing all that well, but it doesn't have to because it was made for Apple's streaming service. O, so Deadline Hollywood lied to us? Who'd a thot . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 10 hours ago, BigFatCoward said: BUT WITHOUT TAKING ANY ARTISTIC LICENCE AT ALL!!!!!! One can always, always, always, pitifully hope for a better future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loge Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 40 minutes ago, Zorral said: O, so Deadline Hollywood lied to us? Who'd a thot . . . . Deadline Hollywood claims that the movie "exceeded expectations." Apparently, those expectations were pretty low as far as box office revenue is concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, Loge said: those expectations were pretty low as far as box office revenue is concerned. O my. Here I'd gotten the contrary impression, considering All the Media Attention, for weeks now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireWolfSpirit Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) Ignorance was bliss for me over the long holiday wknd as I was able to enjoy it as an IMAX spectacle largely unawares of which scenes were historically accurate and which were creative license. I enjoyed the way the end credits made sure not to glorify the little warmonger though, listing his battles and how many troops he led to slaughter in each campaign and cumatively. The message was soundly that the carnage was not something that should be emulated or awed over. That was at least a small lesson to close with. Edited November 27, 2023 by DireWolfSpirit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grey Wolf Strikes Back Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Ser Rodrigo Belmonte II said: Enjoyed the last duel and the duellists way more then this, both set in the same time period. The Last Duel takes place in 1386 during the Hundred Years War, which is four centuries before Napoleon's time. Corvinus85 and Arakasi 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Ser Rodrigo Belmonte II said: Haha I don’t play Napoleon cause I’ve modded Empire to have the game in it for free so dont worry that’s covered! They actually showed square formations and cavalry charges in the Waterloo scenes which looked exactly like the games. CA used to be so good at this stuff. 2 hours ago, Heartofice said: Oh shame, I always preferred Napoleon TW. It might in fact be the reason I am excited to see this movie. I recently tried playing Napoleon TW because of how everyone keeps saying it's better than Empire (Napoleon is the only TW game I never truly played). I was doing the tutorial campaign with Napoleon when some sound issue started going on. I promptly uninstalled it. IMO, both games are not worth my time. The naval battles are the only interesting thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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