LongRider Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I see Cescei as more Trumpian than Clintonian after all, Cersei uses sex to get what she wants and disposes of each man quickly. That's more like Trump than Clinton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodRider Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 28 minutes ago, butterbumps! said: Here's the way Slate describes it: He stalked into her space kind of menacingly while she responded to questions. That is, when he wasn't pacing and scowling restlessly. here's another source I wish she had asked him "Are you trying to grab me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunderMifflin Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Doesn't neccesarily have to be another woman. 2 minutes ago, theguyfromtheVale said: If you need a ASoIaF analogy for HRC, I still don't think Cersei is the best option. But there's not many ways for women in ASoIaF to gain power, far less so than in our world, and even there Hillary Clinton is a first. Cersei doesn't work because of Cersei's extreme derangement. Dany doesn't work either, as she's the ultimate outsider. If I have to take some powerful ASoIaF woman to describe Hillary, I guess I'd have to go with the Queen of Thorns. Doesn't neccessarily need to be a women does it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireWolfSpirit Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 16 minutes ago, SkynJay said: Gore tried the 'stand next to the opponent and physically loom' tactic against Bush and it looked horrible. Trump trying against a women in light of his released comments just show that there is no oNE in his campaign that can control him. Someone would have pointed out whathat a bad look it is surely? I vowed months ago to avoid watching any of the debates. But based on all the footage and photo's in the media post debate, I was thinking pretty much this same thing. That stalkerish, looming over look, has to be the absolute stupidest move the Trump campaign has gave us yet. I'm pretty sure that's the image that will be seered into the memory of millions of women voters, long after the inconsequential babble from last nights town hall has been forgotten. They will remember that unflattering bully image long after the words are forgotten. Pretty sure Trump has the wife beater vote locked down, they would be great fans of that cringe worthy bully look. Also happy to see the headlines announcing the Bush family member has been suspended from the "Today Show" ( the one from the released tapes that Donald is calling locker room talk). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gertrude Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Why can't Hillary be Stannis - part of the establishment, rightful heir apparent. Would be a competent leader but the people will never love him/her It even works with Bill as Robert. Don't get hung up on her sex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunderMifflin Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, Gertrude said: Why can't Hillary be Stannis - part of the establishment, rightful heir apparent. Would be a competent leader but the people will never love him/her It even works with Bill as Robert. Don't get hung up on her sex. Also both are said to be super boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 9 minutes ago, Gertrude said: Why can't Hillary be Stannis - part of the establishment, rightful heir apparent. Would be a competent leader but the people will never love him/her It even works with Bill as Robert. Don't get hung up on her sex. So she's going to invade Canada, subdue their attack in the northern border, and then incorporate them as the 51st state. Sweet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The guy from the Vale Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 15 minutes ago, Gertrude said: Why can't Hillary be Stannis - part of the establishment, rightful heir apparent. Would be a competent leader but the people will never love him/her It even works with Bill as Robert. Don't get hung up on her sex. I can get behind that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunderMifflin Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 10 minutes ago, larrytheimp said: So she's going to invade Canada, subdue their attack in the northern border, and then incorporate them as the 51st state. Sweet! She's also going to allow any refugees in if they convert to Christianity, and vow to vote for her of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 This is a piece of Trump fan art (sensitive readers may prefer to look away). https://twitter.com/Otto_English/status/785471928974835712/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkynJay Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 54 minutes ago, Gertrude said: Why can't Hillary be Stannis - part of the establishment, rightful heir apparent. Would be a competent leader but the people will never love him/her It even works with Bill as Robert. Don't get hung up on her sex. We have a winner. I like this so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrackerNeil Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 5 minutes ago, SkynJay said: We have a winner. I like this so much. Word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitttenGuard Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 The next 29 days will be whether enough people will be turned off voting that a motivated Republican base full on Clinton hatred will carry Trump to victory. The image appears to be in Trump favor and base is very happy. Recent news report show Conway softening Trump's threat to jail Clinton and Pence's saying Radditz mischaracterized him. So Trump stop the bleeding but is it good for the GOP. If tactics to get this disguisted and will vote then Clinton should have both Houses of Congress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sologdin Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 16 minutes ago, SeanF said: This is a piece of Trump fan art (sensitive readers may prefer to look away). https://twitter.com/Otto_English/status/785471928974835712/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw kickass. milton wrote of this image, actually: Quote Such applause was heard As Mammon ended, and his sentence pleased, Advising peace: for such another field They dreaded worse than Hell; so much the fear Of thunder and the sword of Donald Wrought still within them; and no less desire To found this nether empire, which might rise, By policy and long process of time, In emulation opposite to Heaven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mlle. Zabzie Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 2 hours ago, butterbumps! said: I thought Trump pretty clearly lost (more so than Clinton "won"), but I was nervous that people would misinterpret his assaults on reality, the English language, and his threatening posturing as "strong." So I'm relieved we haven't disgraced ourselves that badly yet. I've been trying to think through what might have turned that into a real win for her rather than a Trump loss, and I'm honestly kind of at a loss. Is there really any way to engage someone who is going that far off the rails and that despicably low, and come off looking better for it? How do you actively win that? The narrative that is being constructed is that he won (basically he managed to exceed the extremely low expectations). Honestly, his base loved what happened last night. I don't think he turned any undecided voters towards himself. Really at the end of the day this comes down to turnout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kairparavel Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I'm skeptical that anyone is undecided at this point. At least between Clinton and Trump. If it's somehow between Clinton and 3rd party, I just. Well. Good luck America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 2 hours ago, Guess who's back said: And Hillary would be queen Cercei? She's closer to cat than cersei. Duty drives her a lot. Cersei isn't unfair either. But yeah, @Gertrude has a good point. Stannis is a great comparison too - quote competent person who is disliked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 19 minutes ago, Mlle. Zabzie said: The narrative that is being constructed is that he won (basically he managed to exceed the extremely low expectations). Honestly, his base loved what happened last night. I don't think he turned any undecided voters towards himself. Really at the end of the day this comes down to turnout. The narrative seems pretty split to me, and if more of the post-debate 'who won?' polls look like CNN's last night, the narrative will fall into Clinton's favor. After all, the first debate's narrative was 'its a tie!' among a lot of pundits until all the polls came in showing a blowout on par with the first debate in 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mlle. Zabzie Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Just now, Fez said: The narrative seems pretty split to me, and if more of the post-debate 'who won?' polls look like CNN's last night, the narrative will fall into Clinton's favor. After all, the first debate's narrative was 'its a tie!' among a lot of pundits until all the polls came in showing a blowout on par with the first debate in 2012. I actually think more important for the polling is what happened post debate. I'm not sure what the tweeter in chief will do with it. Taht's really the wildcard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterbumps! Posted October 10, 2016 Author Share Posted October 10, 2016 17 minutes ago, Mlle. Zabzie said: The narrative that is being constructed is that he won (basically he managed to exceed the extremely low expectations). Honestly, his base loved what happened last night. I don't think he turned any undecided voters towards himself. Really at the end of the day this comes down to turnout. Well that's the narrative being spun by his base and his grotesquerie, but I thought both viewers and pundits agreed Clinton took it. I struggle to believe that a reasonable, non Brietbart pundit could determine that Trump won. Or even that it could be tied. I mean, he literally threatened to lock up his opponent upon his victory. I would hope that should be an immediately disqualifying action for a "win." I agree about turnout, though. Luckily, since Clinton is running a real campaign, she's been on top of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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