Zorral Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 (edited) Russian ex-navy commander shot dead while jogging in Krasnodar It's a mystery. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66162502 Quote .... "So far Russian police cannot find a single surveillance camera that would show the crime being committed. The search continues," he said. Cpt Rzhitsky's watch and headphones were found at the scene, indicating robbery was not the motive, according to Russian news outlet Mash. He reportedly commanded the Krasnodar submarine, named after the city, in the Russian Navy. Ukrainian media has said he could have been in command of the vessel when it carried out a missile attack on the Ukrainian city of Vinnytsia in July 2022, which killed 23 people, including three children. The Ukrainian government said the attack came from Kalibr cruise missiles launched from a submarine in the Black Sea. But Baza has quoted Cpt Rzhitsky's father saying that his son resigned from the Russian armed forces in December 2021 - before Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine.He subsequently became the deputy mobilisation officer in the Krasnodar region. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/notorious-russian-sub-commander-assassinated-on-his-morning-jog/ar-AA1dIgTq? Quote A Russian submarine commander blamed for atrocities in Ukraine was gunned down on his morning jog in Krasnodar—and his killer likely knew just where to find him thanks to his habit of posting his running routes on a popular exercise app. Stanislav Rzhitsky, a commander of a submarine in Russia’s Black Sea Fleet and the deputy head of mobilization efforts in Krasnodar, was shot four times in the back and chest in broad daylight on Monday morning, according to local media reports. The Investigative Committee has opened a murder investigation into the brazen hit. Russian media claims investigators believe the 42-year-old’s assassination was “ordered from Ukraine,” though Ukrainian authorities have painted a much murkier picture of the whodunnit mystery. The Ukrainian Defense Ministry’s Main Intelligence Directorate on Tuesday confirmed Rzhitsky’s murder but did not claim responsibility for it, noting only that he had commanded a Russian submarine “involved in missile attacks on Ukraine.” They said he’d been shot seven times with a Makarov pistol. Ukrainian intelligence chief Kyrylo Budanov denied that Kyiv had any involvement in the killing, writing on Telegram on Tuesday that the “roots” of the murder “should be sought within Russia itself, where internal protest against the war in Ukraine is growing.” The Krasnodar submarine, equipped with Kalibr cruise missiles, was blamed by Ukrainian media for an attack on Vinnytsia last year that killed 27 people. Rzhitsky was also listed in a Ukrainian database that names and shames all those accused of involvement in war crimes. Ukrainian intelligence chief Kyrylo Budanov denied that Kyiv had any involvement in the killing, writing on Telegram on Tuesday that the “roots” of the murder “should be sought within Russia itself, where internal protest against the war in Ukraine is growing.” The Krasnodar submarine, equipped with Kalibr cruise missiles, was blamed by Ukrainian media for an attack on Vinnytsia last year that killed 27 people. Rzhitsky was also listed in a Ukrainian database that names and shames all those accused of involvement in war crimes. But Ukrainian authorities say Rzhitsky had also made enemies in the Russian military after refusing to carry out any more missile strikes on Ukraine due to the risks to the civilian population. In a statement, the Department of Strategic Communications of the Armed Forces of Ukraine claimed Rzhitsky was “eliminated by his own for refusing to further carry out the command’s combat orders.” Edited July 11, 2023 by Zorral Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Another Russian general killed (by Ukraine) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Rippounet said: BTW, the AMX-10s are operational - they were actually delivered in about 4 months in the end (delivery started as early as February, but I understand it took longer for them to be operational). The Ukrainian military finds the armor a bit weak though, and prefers the Oshkosh. I've seen that. The AMX-10s seem to be effective in support but not great when they're the only armoured vehicles in the area. But then Ukraine seems to have been deploying them sensibly alongside infantry formations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Good thread on some of the horrible conditions that Russian troops are being put through as part of the fighting:https://mastodon.sdf.org/@[email protected]/110696955345291108 Quote 9/ "All of the above circumstances led to critical losses of both personnel and destruction of heavy guns. The units that survived due to the strength of the battalions were forced to retreat, after which, without reinforcing the battalions, providing combat equipment, and replenishing the units with guns, the brigade command gave new orders to go to the line of contact with the enemy without artillery support. ... 13/ "But instead of all this, [battalion commander] Gavrilov and other commanders, having unlimited power over the mobilised men with their threats of blackmail, force them to go to the front line without proper uniforms and weapons and equipment. JGP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Kalbear, Week, Winterfell is Burning and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pebble thats Stubby Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Kalnak the Magnificent said: Good thread on some of the horrible conditions that Russian troops are being put through as part of the fighting:https://mastodon.sdf.org/@[email protected]/110696955345291108 this will only make them excellent Ballet dancers. Kalbear, JGP, Matrim Fox Cauthon and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Ukrainska Pravda Russia focuses efforts on 5 fronts, where Ukrainian forces clashed with Russian forces 17 times today – General Staff report 4 hrs. ago https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-focuses-efforts-on-5-fronts-where-ukrainian-forces-clashed-with-russian-forces-17-times-today-general-staff-report/ar-AA1dJvws? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Matrim Fox Cauthon, Tongue Stuck to Wall, Corvinus85 and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Erik of Hazelfield Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 As a Swede, the NATO membership comes with mixed feelings. It’s probably the right thing to do in terms of making Sweden safer. It also makes the Baltic countries safer, as it will further deter Russia from attacking them. Sweden doesn’t have the biggest army in Europe, but we do have a rather large and modern airforce with over 100 JAS Gripen fighter jets. We also have a small but modern fleet of stealth corvettes and submarines designed to operate in the Baltic Sea. Furthermore, we have rather advanced intelligence and anti-air systems. All this is good news for NATO’s capability of repelling attacks in the Baltic Sea region. But while it does feel good to be part of this alliance to defend Europe, there are also drawbacks with a NATO membership. First of all, the diplomatic games leading to this decision have been absolutely awful, with the Quran burnings, lifted export restrictions of weapons to Turkey, throwing Kurds under the bus etc. Now it culminated with Sweden promising to assist Turkey with their EU membership application, which is of course an utterly empty promise because Turkey are very very far from fulfilling the democratic and economic standards of membership and they’re going in the wrong direction too. To have them lecturing us on human rights and freedom of speech is pretty rich. Second, the one-percent goal (military spending part of GDP) is perhaps necessary, but a necessary evil. Of all spending, military spending is among the most wasteful and I’d much rather we could use that money for education, healthcare or other useful stuff. Arms races are tragedies like that. And right now, ironically, the threat of a Russian invasion of Sweden is likely lower than in a long time now that the Russian army is in shambles as well as tied up in Ukraine. But it became an internal political prestige issue for this government to successfully enter NATO, so it had to be done quickly. The drawn out process has been embarrassing for all involved parts, including Sweden, Turkey, Hungary, the US and NATO itself. In the end I think Erdogan just realised that everyone was getting tired and that further obstruction wouldn’t give him any more perks than he already got. Week, JGP and Matrim Fox Cauthon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterweedstrover Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 Our Russian boys thanking ZelensKKy And people say these kids are raping babies and harvesting souls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 Hmm. Girkin believes that the mutiny was successful in shifting the balance of power in the Kremlin, even if it wasn't overtly successful on the day. He believes a gradual shift in power will follow, during which time military commanders will be so focused on internal Russian events they will lose the ability to reinforce or defend on the front, inevitably leading to a Russian withdrawal from the war. Hard to gauge to what degree this is a cogent analysis or fantastical bullshit. Girkin's been in a pessimistic mood for months now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterweedstrover Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, Werthead said: Hmm. Girkin believes that the mutiny was successful in shifting the balance of power in the Kremlin, even if it wasn't overtly successful on the day. He believes a gradual shift in power will follow, during which time military commanders will be so focused on internal Russian events they will lose the ability to reinforce or defend on the front, inevitably leading to a Russian withdrawal from the war. Hard to gauge to what degree this is a cogent analysis or fantastical bullshit. Girkin's been in a pessimistic mood for months now. Girkin is mad because he wants to be the 'patriotic' hero who saves Russia (as history goes) but he has been usurped by more viable candidates. His Jealousy right now is directed towards Prigohzin who he wants executed. He wants to be the hero of this story, but he is just a fraud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varysblackfyre321 Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 43 minutes ago, butterweedstrover said: And people say these kids are raping babies Well at least some sure and they’re not really getting punished for it. If you want to rape kids join the Russian military—you don’t have to do it but the chances of getting punished are really low. To be clear you do understand no matter how brutal a group or person you could find them just chilling or having light fun.. Ser Scot A Ellison 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 55 minutes ago, Werthead said: Hmm. Girkin believes that the mutiny was successful in shifting the balance of power in the Kremlin, even if it wasn't overtly successful on the day. He believes a gradual shift in power will follow, during which time military commanders will be so focused on internal Russian events they will lose the ability to reinforce or defend on the front, inevitably leading to a Russian withdrawal from the war. Hard to gauge to what degree this is a cogent analysis or fantastical bullshit. Girkin's been in a pessimistic mood for months now. His ‘pessimistic mood’ and postings may lead to him jumping out a window or drinking poison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterweedstrover Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Varysblackfyre321 said: Well at least some sure and they’re not really getting punished for it. If you want to rape kids join the Russian military—you don’t have to do it but the chances of getting punished are really low. To be clear you do understand no matter how brutal a group or person you could find them just chilling or having light fun.. Russians killed those guys, get real. And no, you have zero proof of raped babies. 3 hours ago, Derfel Cadarn said: His ‘pessimistic mood’ and postings may lead to him jumping out a window or drinking poison. He’s useful to the FSB, but one day they need to drop him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) A Missing Russian General Is ‘Taking a Rest’ a Top Lawmaker Says Gen. Sergei Surovikin, the commander of the Russian Aerospace Forces, has not been seen in public since a short-lived mutiny of mercenaries on June 24. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/12/world/europe/sergei-surovikin-russian-general-missing.html They Are Saying he's being held incommunicado by Russian intelligence in an undisclosed location. Edited July 12, 2023 by Zorral Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varysblackfyre321 Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 2 hours ago, butterweedstrover said: Russians killed those guys Not a deconstruction of my point of you can find any person or group having light hearted fun- Though it’s nice to see you reiterate your selective predisposition to genetic destiny. No comparison or analogies between a Russian soldier and a Nazi because (eventually after initially siding with them to trade and conquer poleland) Russians fought the Nazis—this logic doesn’t work for Ukrainians though 2 hours ago, butterweedstrover said: And no, you have zero proof of raped babies. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna4916 Quote Russian troops raped and tortured children in Ukraine, U.N. panel says Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hauberk Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 29 minutes ago, Varysblackfyre321 said: Not a deconstruction of my point of you can find any person or group having light hearted fun- Though it’s nice to see you reiterate your selective predisposition to genetic destiny. No comparison or analogies between a Russian soldier and a Nazi because (eventually after initially siding with them to trade and conquer poleland) Russians fought the Nazis—this logic doesn’t work for Ukrainians though https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna4916 NBC and the UN? Pffff! Clearly pawns of the Western Imperialist Cabal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted July 12, 2023 Author Share Posted July 12, 2023 53 minutes ago, hauberk said: NBC and the UN? Pffff! Clearly pawns of the Western Imperialist Cabal! When all Butter has is solipsism… he’s losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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