Mexal Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 15 minutes ago, dbunting said: Finished Marvelous Mrs Maisel at the end of last week. Good show, thought S1 was the best of the three. The way the kids were treated is amazing, they are truly just props in this show. By the end I wanted to punch her parents in the face whenever they were on screen. Also watched S1 of The Americans, since I couldn't go out and do much! Really good show so far. I was a bit shocked at the amount of bare asses and swearing that is allowed. I guess since it was originally on FX it's allowed a little more lee way? It's the fact it was on FX and late at night (10pm if I remember correctly). One of my favorite shows, enjoy the watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veltigar Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 4 hours ago, Ramsay B. said: I thought Moonlight was great and really like Mahershala Ali, but I thought it was weird he won an Oscar at the time too. Wasn’t he only in it for like 10 minutes? I haven’t seen it in a while. Less than 20 minutes according to IMDB, but no exact amount of time is given. All his appearences are barely enough to fill his oscar reel at any reate. I thought it was a bit part really. Excellent acting throughout, but I can hardly imagine there weren't any other deserving candidates. Heck, Aaron Paul in Hell or High Water was awesome and he was in a lot more of the film. 4 hours ago, red snow said: Isn't this true of pretty much every oscar winner? You got me on that one! 4 hours ago, red snow said: At the very least this was an original screenplay and not an adaptation of a musical. I definitely prefer this winning to La La Land. I remember taking an instant dislike to that film. I generally like the genre and it was just a bad musical. 4 hours ago, red snow said: I thought Ali won supporting actor? Totally deserving of that as his limited scenes were excellent. If he won best actor, i agree that's off. No, he won supporting actor! See my response to Ramsay B. above though, I can't imagine his part being better than anyone else's supporting bid that year. Like I said, I haven't seen many of the contenders for that year (basically only Hell or High Water, La La Land and now Moonlight), but it has to be a pretty poor year for film if that was the best we had to offer. 4 hours ago, Heartofice said: Moonlight, like a lot of other Oscar winners is a completely forgettable movie. It obviously won heavily based on its subject matter because otherwise it’s not an especially great movie at all. Some good acting, a couple of nice looking scenes but I can remember almost nothing else about it. Its a waste of time debating film quality when it comes to the Oscars though, the idea that best pictures are decided based on whether they are the best movie is completely naive. We’ve all given up on that idea. Hmmm, I understand your point of view, but I do think not all of us have given up on that idea. Look at the recent win for Parasite, which restructured that épistèmè in my opinion. The prize was conceived as a way to reward the best film and the general public often still sees it that way. They therefore have a pretty big impact on which films are deemed successful and which aren't. I therefore feel it remains important to engage with them throughout. The Academy Awards should be better. 2 hours ago, Ran said: There's moments and images from Moonlight that stick in my head still, so the idea that it's "completely forgettable" is obviously an individual assessment. Barry Jenkins is a great director, and James Laxton did a bang-up job on the cinematography. I would have put Manchester by the Sea or La La Land above it for the Oscar, personally, but it was surely better than everything else on that year's expanded list, IMO. I'm guessing Spoiler the swimming lesson, naomi harris going into the pink room, the final scene between Juan and Chiron, Kevin and Chiron on the beach and some of the facial close-ups? I'll be taking a look at Manchester by the Sea next. What tanked Manchester By the Sea's odds? I remember that there was a lot of buzz about it, but did it actually win anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Veltigar said: Hmmm, I understand your point of view, but I do think not all of us have given up on that idea. Look at the recent win for Parasite, which restructured that épistèmè in my opinion. The prize was conceived as a way to reward the best film and the general public often still sees it that way. They therefore have a pretty big impact on which films are deemed successful and which aren't. I therefore feel it remains important to engage with them throughout. The Academy Awards should be better. The academy awards have very rarely been about which movie is 'the best one'. Whether it's because you have Weinstein going around bribing and bullying people or whether there is a general collective sense of guilt contributing to decision making, there is always something that means movies are rarely being objectively judged on which one is best on just a technical level. There are so many outside factors going into decisions and I always find that frustrating. Even Parasite, which I liked, but wouldn't pick as the BP, I suspect might have struggled to win if Trump wasn't president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 26 minutes ago, Veltigar said: Less than 20 minutes according to IMDB, but no exact amount of time is given. All his appearences are barely enough to fill his oscar reel at any reate. I thought it was a bit part really. Excellent acting throughout, but I can hardly imagine there weren't any other deserving candidates. Heck, Aaron Paul in Hell or High Water was awesome and he was in a lot more of the film. You got me on that one! I definitely prefer this winning to La La Land. I remember taking an instant dislike to that film. I generally like the genre and it was just a bad musical. No, he won supporting actor! See my response to Ramsay B. above though, I can't imagine his part being better than anyone else's supporting bid that year. Like I said, I haven't seen many of the contenders for that year (basically only Hell or High Water, La La Land and now Moonlight), but it has to be a pretty poor year for film if that was the best we had to offer. Hmmm, I understand your point of view, but I do think not all of us have given up on that idea. Look at the recent win for Parasite, which restructured that épistèmè in my opinion. The prize was conceived as a way to reward the best film and the general public often still sees it that way. They therefore have a pretty big impact on which films are deemed successful and which aren't. I therefore feel it remains important to engage with them throughout. The Academy Awards should be better. I'm guessing Hide contents the swimming lesson, naomi harris going into the pink room, the final scene between Juan and Chiron, Kevin and Chiron on the beach and some of the facial close-ups? I'll be taking a look at Manchester by the Sea next. What tanked Manchester By the Sea's odds? I remember that there was a lot of buzz about it, but did it actually win anything? Wasnt there some #MeToo related press aroundAffleck came to light around this time? That may have had an impact. I believe Affleck won best actor and the film also won for screenplay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 @Veltigar Aaron Paul wasn’t in Hell or High Water. I think you meant to say Ben Foster, who was indeed great. My favorite film from that year by far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maarsen Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 I just started a wonderful new show on Netflix. Queen Sono. I find it absolutely enthralling. It is set in South Africa and it is secret government agency fighting corruption in Africa. Gorgeous scenery, wonderful cast, interesting storyline that plays with and inverts clichés, and did I mention that it is set in Africa? This is why I find Netflix so cool. Yeah, I can watch some of the best movies and tv from Hollywood but finding gems made in other parts of the world normally inaccessible here in the west is what I love. Which brings me back to Queen Sono. The actress who plays her, Pearl Thusi, gets my vote for the next Bond when Daniel Craig is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cas Stark Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 LaLa Land, Moonlight AND Arrival are all overrated, IMO, that was truly a terrible year for movies. I guess if you twisted my arm I would have chosen Manchester by the Sea as best picture but even that would have been a stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red snow Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 4 hours ago, HelenaExMachina said: Wasnt there some #MeToo related press aroundAffleck came to light around this time? That may have had an impact. I believe Affleck won best actor and the film also won for screenplay. Wasn't "Argo" a film that won in every category besides the ones directly involving Affleck? That always struck me as quite pointed they didn't want to give him anything. 3 hours ago, Nictarion said: @Veltigar Aaron Paul wasn’t in Hell or High Water. I think you meant to say Ben Foster, who was indeed great. My favorite film from that year by far. I was scratching my head over that one too. Foster was worthy of praise but he is in most films featuring him eg leave no trace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Seems churlish to worry about Moonlight winning best picture considering dolphin porn won the year afterwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cas Stark Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Dunkirk was robbed I say! Robbed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 1 hour ago, maarsen said: I just started a wonderful new show on Netflix. Queen Sono. I mentioned it here a couple of weeks ago. Enjoyed it a great deal. I mean it was fun while also being filled with content and pertinent -- the exploration of second and third generations of freedom fighters and leaders. Alas, it was so short and when / if there will be another season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbunting Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 1 hour ago, red snow said: Wasn't "Argo" a film that won in every category besides the ones directly involving Affleck? That always struck me as quite pointed they didn't want to give him anything. Casey Affleck was Manchester by the Sea, not Ben/Argo. Unless you knew that, then my mistake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 1 hour ago, red snow said: Wasn't "Argo" a film that won in every category besides the ones directly involving Affleck? That always struck me as quite pointed they didn't want to give him anything. I was scratching my head over that one too. Foster was worthy of praise but he is in most films featuring him eg leave no trace Wrong Affleck, Casey Affleck was in MbtS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veltigar Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 6 hours ago, Heartofice said: The academy awards have very rarely been about which movie is 'the best one'. Whether it's because you have Weinstein going around bribing and bullying people or whether there is a general collective sense of guilt contributing to decision making, there is always something that means movies are rarely being objectively judged on which one is best on just a technical level. There are so many outside factors going into decisions and I always find that frustrating. Even Parasite, which I liked, but wouldn't pick as the BP, I suspect might have struggled to win if Trump wasn't president. We all know there are things outside of the purely creative playing their part in the process, but I also think we can all agree that shouldn't be the case. That is why it is important to call the Academy out on their bullshit and celebrate the few times our blind squirrel friends do find a nut! And naturally, there is also a matter of personal taste involved. I thought Parasite was the most worthy winner in years. Not to say that 1917 wasn't great if that one had been selected it would have been an equally valid choice. Just a shame that it didn't come out a year or two before. 5 hours ago, Nictarion said: @Veltigar Aaron Paul wasn’t in Hell or High Water. I think you meant to say Ben Foster, who was indeed great. My favorite film from that year by far. you just blew my mind. They look so damn similar! Loved both Ben Foster and Hell or High Water! 6 hours ago, HelenaExMachina said: Wasnt there some #MeToo related press aroundAffleck came to light around this time? That may have had an impact. I believe Affleck won best actor and the film also won for screenplay. A yes, that's probably the case. Strange that he still won for best actor though. You really can't fathom this easily. 1 hour ago, Heartofice said: Seems churlish to worry about Moonlight winning best picture considering dolphin porn won the year afterwards Lol, that shows you how out of it I have been the last two years to three years or so. Moonlight was better than Green Book and Shape in the Water. Parasite is the first great winner in three years then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, Veltigar said: We all know there are things outside of the purely creative playing their part in the process, but I also think we can all agree that shouldn't be the case. That is why it is important to call the Academy out on their bullshit and celebrate the few times our blind squirrel friends do find a nut! And naturally, there is also a matter of personal taste involved. I thought Parasite was the most worthy winner in years. Not to say that 1917 wasn't great if that one had been selected it would have been an equally valid choice. Just a shame that it didn't come out a year or two before. I'm not unhappy about Parasites win, I get it, it didn't hit me like it did others, but I can see it's quality. It's a hell of a lot better than Dolphin Porn, or that movie about racism for people who don't go to the movies, I agree. I do think decision about Parasite almost certainly had some other factors surrounding why it won, but in this case it was still pretty much a worthy winner so I'm not bothered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Tiger King, the Joe Exotic documentary, is absolutely horrifying and sad but also hilarious. It's super sad animal-wise, but the people are fucked up and entertaining. And sad. I am sad and I am laughing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimTuesday Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 51 minutes ago, larrytheimp said: Tiger King, the Joe Exotic documentary, is absolutely horrifying and sad but also hilarious. It's super sad animal-wise, but the people are fucked up and entertaining. And sad. I am sad and I am laughing. When I originally read the description I thought it was a fake documentary series kind of like What We Do in the Shadows. It is just insane how awful these people are. Not even Carol, the wildlife preserving hippy, is a good person, she fucking sucks too. It's kind of funny how, at least in my case, at the end you feel kind of bad for Joe, up until you remember what an absolute piece of shit he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 This Country has finished, i'm sad about the Corona situation, but devastated there will be no more Kerry, Kurtan, Vics, Len or Big Mandy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 On 3/22/2020 at 9:14 AM, Mexal said: We are. Loving it so far. Atmosphere is by far the best part. I binged the first few episodes of Devs and I'm a big fan too. Honestly, I know Garland is not everyone's cup of tea but I have liked almost everything he has done so far. I will forever be someone who adores Sunshine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red snow Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 14 hours ago, dbunting said: Casey Affleck was Manchester by the Sea, not Ben/Argo. Unless you knew that, then my mistake! I think it was a case of me being on another mental thread. I know casey has a dubious history but was also thinking ben may have done something to piss the academy off too in the argo year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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