US Politics: Dominoes falling, GOP failing, what a time to be alive!

[The Anti-Targ]

9 hours ago, Tywin et al. said:

Nice to see that a white supremacist who supported an insurrection got slapped down for accusing someone else of being anti-Semitic and supporting an insurrection.

Again, every Republican claim should be viewed as projection. 

Self-incrimination more like.

[Kalbear]

4 minutes ago, The Anti-Targ said:

Self-incrimination more like.

There are no crimes so long as there is no one willing to charge them

[Fragile Bird]

Donald Trump said today the people imprisoned for the Jan. 6 attack are hostages.

I guess that makes the Biden government Hamas, eh?

[The Anti-Targ]

They are, after all, just beautiful, patriotic Americans who were politely asking congress to give them the election result they desired. And clearly they were right, because the speaker of the House totally agrees with them.

[Larry of the Lawn]

13 hours ago, Kalbear said:

There are no crimes so long as there is no one willing to charge them

Ever do men nolle prosequi

[Zorral]

In case we missed it, this fellow is the D challenger to Biden's D nomination for POTUS.

‘You just gaslit her’: How Dean Phillips’s first town hall went off the rails in N.H.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/11/02/dean-phillips-town-hall-new-hampshire/

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MANCHESTER, N.H. — Rep. Dean Phillips (D-Minn.) says he will host 119 town halls in his long-shot primary challenge against President Biden. If the reception at his first is any indication of the next potential 118, the nascent campaign faces an even steeper uphill battle for the nomination than expected as a little-known congressman challenging an incumbent president.

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Edited November 3, 2023 by Ran
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[Guy Kilmore]

I'm not sure what Dean Phillips is thinking with this. I'm happy he was able to unseat Eric Paulsen

[Zorral]

Mark Meadows' conservative book publisher is suing him for lying in his memoir after he reportedly flipped on Trump

https://www.businessinsider.com/mark-meadows-trump-flip-book-election-fraud-claims-lawsuit-2023-11

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-The publisher of Mark Meadows' memoir is suing the former White House chief of staff.
-All Seasons Press claims that Meadows lied to it and made false claims in his book.
-The suit comes after reports that Meadows flipped on Trump

Mark Meadows Hit With Lawsuit From His Book Publisher Over Election Claims

https://www.newsweek.com/mark-meadows-lawsuit-book-publisher-election-claims-1840878

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According to the publisher, All Seasons Press, Meadows violated an agreement regarding false statements by including untrue claims in his book about the 2020 presidential election. The publisher is asking to be paid back the $350,000 advance they gave to Meadows, as well as $600,000 in additional compensatory damages for expense and $1 million in reputational damages. ....

 

[LongRider]

2 minutes ago, Zorral said:

Mark Meadows' conservative book publisher is suing him for lying in his memoir after he reportedly flipped on Trump

https://www.businessinsider.com/mark-meadows-trump-flip-book-election-fraud-claims-lawsuit-2023-11

Mark Meadows Hit With Lawsuit From His Book Publisher Over Election Claims

https://www.newsweek.com/mark-meadows-lawsuit-book-publisher-election-claims-1840878

 

Writing a tell all political book....tasteless.   Lying to the publisher and getting sued by them...hilarious!  

Dumbshit.   

[Zorral]

The state of the State of Disunion - The current actions and the future plans of The fascists. As we already know, what Their objectives are, are horrifying.  VOTE.  If you can because They are already barring great numbers of voters from doing so, because They do know They and Their Objectives are rejected by the majority of voters.

READ what the Speaker is already doing, like, this week, yesterday, today, everyday.

Heather Cox Richardson -- A bit from the latest "Letters From An American"

https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/november-3-2023?

For starters:

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.... Today, Representative Ryan Zinke (R-MT), who was former president Trump’s Interior Secretary until he left under accusations of misconduct, introduced a bill to ban Palestinians from the United States and to revoke any visas issued to Palestinians since October 1 of this year. Although the U.S. has resettled only about 2,000 Palestinians in the last 20 years, ten other far-right members of the House signed onto Zinke’s bill, which draws no distinction between Hamas and Palestinian civilians. ....

Just very lately:.

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... But, far from trying to work across the aisle, Johnson has been throwing red meat to his base. In the last two days, for example, the House has voted to slash 39% of the budget of the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and 13% of the budget of the National Park Service. It voted to require the Biden administration to advance oil drilling off the Alaska coast. It has voted on reducing the salary of the EPA administrator, the director of the Bureau of Land Management, and the Secretary of the Interior to $1 each.

Yesterday, Johnson told reporters he considers extremists Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) and Thomas Massie (R-KY) close friends and said “I don’t disagree with them on many issues and principles.”

To direct his communications team, Johnson has tapped Raj Shah, a former executive from the Fox News Corporation, who was a key player in promoting the lie that Trump won the 2020 presidential election. As the head of the “Brand Protection Unit,” Shah demanded that the Fox News Channel continue to lie to viewers who would leave the station if it told the truth. Johnson has hired Shah to be his deputy chief of staff for communications and, according to Alex Isenstadt of Politico, “help run messaging for House Republicans.”  ....

 

 

[Bironic]

There are 48 democrats, 3 democrat leaning independents and 49 republicans in the senate. 9 Republicans served in the armed forces (8 officers) and an additional 3 republicans (Romney, Collins, Murkowski) we can probably call sane and still Tuberville can hold the military nominations... Crazy...

Does Tuberville want Trump to replace these officers in 2025 with MAGA officers, so that the next insurrection gets backing by the top brass (similar to how McConnell blocked judiciary appointments 2014-2017)? Or is it just pandering to his ultraconservative voters and make some national headlines?

The fact that military nominations are so dependent on every single senator is kinda insane as well...

Anyway it's another check in the list of things that turned the USA from an imperfect but functioning into a dysfunctional, defective, oligarchic democracy...

I sincerely hope for a blue wave in november 2024...

[Zorral]

1 hour ago, Bironic said:

Does Tuberville want

It's about making everything in the US about forced birth.  Next step after this is to get women out of the military all together -- and everywhere else -- forcing them to marry a man, stay at home and pregnant, the way gawd demands.

Yes, it does play to the fascist base.  Keeping Others out, deporting them, incarcerating them, go along with incarcerating women at 'home' without recourse to anything but what their owner decrees.  Thus we have the perfect fascist world.  See: nazi germany.

Edited November 4, 2023 by Zorral

[Jace, Extat]

1 hour ago, Zorral said:

It's about making everything in the US about forced birth.  Next step after this is to get women out of the military all together -- and everywhere else -- forcing them to marry a man, stay at home and pregnant, the way gawd demands.

Yes, it does play to the fascist base.  Keeping Others out, deporting them, incarcerating them, go along with incarcerating women at 'home' without recourse to anything but what their owner decrees.  Thus we have the perfect fascist world.  See: nazi germany.

God, you're perfect. Don't ever change.

[Larry of the Lawn]

1 minute ago, Varysblackfyre321 said:

So Biden since Israel started escalating its war crimes with his tactic approval is now at its lowest point since last summer. Great. Wonderful. really looking forward to losing American democracy over his unwillingness to tell israel to not bomb refugee camps and ambulances.

I'm not inclined to defend Biden and I think his words on Israel / Palestine are atrocious.  His approval might be suffering but I'd bet a lot of money that many of those people are people like me who will vote for the asshole anyway because he sucks less than any Republican candidate, which is who would end up there if it's not the Dem candidate.  

If he loses it's not going to be over this.  

[Altherion]

Biden is between a rock and a hard place. In absolute terms, the number of voters who side with Hamas is small, but almost all of them are part of the Democrat coalition so he can either choose to alienate them by supporting Israel or to alienate everyone else by being tougher on Israel. He has tried to steer a middle course by saying that he definitely supports Israel and then immediately pressing them to limit their activities in Gaza to avoid bad press, but one can only play to both sides to an extent.

CNN has a list of current swing state polls and Biden has definitely lost ground:

 

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In Nevada, a state Biden narrowly carried in the 2020 presidential election, Trump boasts 52% support to Biden’s 41%. Trump also tops Biden in Georgia, a state that was central to his ploy to overturn the last presidential election, with 49% to Biden’s 43%.

Trump leads Biden in Arizona, too, with 49% to the president’s 44%. In Michigan, Trump holds a 5-point lead as well: 48% to Biden’s 43%.

Each poll has a margin of sampling error between 4.4 and 4.8 points, and the head-to-head matchup remains theoretical — primary voting does not begin until next year.

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In Pennsylvania, a state Trump won in 2016 but Biden recaptured in 2020, Trump is at 48% to Biden’s 44%.

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In Wisconsin, meanwhile, Biden takes 47% to Trump’s 45%, well within the survey’s margin of error.

With roughly a year until the general election, these polls, which were conducted by telephone from October 22 to November 3, capture only one snapshot of the electorate as it currently stands. But they show a broad sense of discontent.

Across these six battleground states, registered voters give Biden low job approval marks (38% approve), with just 19% describing the economy as excellent or good. At the same time, only 42% in these states rate Trump favorably, similar to Biden’s 41% favorability rating.

Of course, as the article points out, there's a long time before the election and it is entirely possible that things will change. The situation is much more volatile than usual because, unlike nearly every other front runner in recent history, Trump might be disqualified in certain states and also he has his laundry list of legal cases which will keep going next year.

[mormont]

1 hour ago, Altherion said:

Biden is between a rock and a hard place. In absolute terms, the number of voters who side with Hamas is small

It's not small. It's microscopic. It's not even measurable in polling terms.

You appear to be talking about a very different group of voters.

[Kalbear]

1 hour ago, mormont said:

It's not small. It's microscopic. It's not even measurable in polling terms.

You appear to be talking about a very different group of voters.

He believes that anyone who is bothered by Palestinian deaths is siding with Hamas.

[Ser Scot A Ellison]

On 11/4/2023 at 6:36 PM, Larry of the Lawn said:

I'm not inclined to defend Biden and I think his words on Israel / Palestine are atrocious.  His approval might be suffering but I'd bet a lot of money that many of those people are people like me who will vote for the asshole anyway because he sucks less than any Republican candidate, which is who would end up there if it's not the Dem candidate.  

If he loses it's not going to be over this.  

The problem is not the vote… but the turnout.  Trumpanistas will show up.  They love their cult leader.  Will those who oppose Trump?

[Varysblackfyre321]

5 hours ago, Altherion said:

Biden is between a rock and a hard place. In absolute terms, the number of voters who side with Hamas is small, but almost all of them are part of the Democrat coalition so he can either choose to alienate them by supporting Israel or to alienate everyone else by being tougher on Israel.

Tougher being saying don’t bomb refugee camps and ambulance

 

2 hours ago, Kalbear said:

He believes that anyone who is bothered by Palestinian deaths is siding with Hamas.

Or at least he recognizes the need to use frame people being mad hamas fighters dying instead of babies and kids getting bombed at a refugee camp or while along side an ambulance.

@Altherion would it be productive to label people who think Biden should be more supportive or as supportive as he’s been to Israel as pro-child murder,  pro-self described fascists?

[Altherion]

3 hours ago, mormont said:

It's not small. It's microscopic. It's not even measurable in polling terms.

It's not that small and quite easily measurable in polling:

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The survey found that 84 percent of respondents sided more with Israel in the Israel-Hamas war, compared to 16 percent who sided with Hamas.

Broken down by age, 52 percent of 18-to-24-year-olds said they sided more with Israel, while 48 percent said they sided more with Hamas. In contrast, 95 percent of respondents 65 years and older said they sided with Israel while 5 percent sided with Hamas.

The survey also found that roughly three-fourths of respondents — 76 percent — said Hamas’s killing of 1,200 Israeli civilians could not be justified by the grievances of Palestinians, while 24 percent said it could be justified. (Figures for the number of Israeli civilians killed during the war have risen from 1,200.)

The only age demographic to show a majority of its respondents saying that Hamas’s killings could be justified were respondents aged 18-to-24 years old. Fifty-one percent of that demographic said Hamas’s killing could be justified by the grievances of Palestinians while 49 percent said they were not justified.

 

The number who support the Palestinians in general is larger (it's probably a narrow majority of Democratic voters), but even the number who support Hamas amounts to a sizable minority.