DMC Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 8 hours ago, mormont said: The idea that Clark Kent, not Superman, is who you really aspire to be You and Bill from Kill Bill would not get along: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 I want Austin Butler to be the new Superman if they're going for a younger guy (even though he's not that young). I base that on absolutely nothing but the trailers for that shitty Elvis movie, so I don't know if he can act, but he looks like he'd have the look and at least some of the relevant charisma so what the hell. (I would absolutely understand if they based their casting on something more concrete, though) eta: on the Superman/Clark Kent discussion, quite frankly my favourite version is when both are true. Like, I like the godlike, alien Superman, most of my really favourite Supes stories are those where that guy seems to be at the forefront (Kingdom Come, cosmic stuff like DC One Million, others of that sort of nature), but all of them are ultimately about that figure being grounded by, at heart, being the decent farmboy even if he's not being Clark Kent at the time. Even something like Superman Smashes the Klan (which quite frankly would be a good choice for the basis for an introductory new-Superman movie, albeit they aren't gonna do a movie based back in those times) involves him coming to terms with being an alien through being the fundamentally decent and slightly awkward nerdy guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 19 minutes ago, DMC said: You and Bill from Kill Bill would not get along: Me and Tarantino wouldn't get along either, to be fair. Also, worth mentioning in passing that Margot Kidder also absolutely killed as Lois Lane. She didn't get the transformations Reeve got but she understood the assignment perfectly. Those films had flaws but they got the casting of the leads 100% correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 Adjacent to this discussion, I just read an article today that DC has confirmed that Reeves Superman and Keaton’s Batman exist in the same universe. And I kinda love that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlyaP Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 Tyler Hoechlin's introduction as Superman in season 2 of Supergirl is a very good approach to take and oh my goodness is he a terrific Superman and Clark Kent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlyaP Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 I have forever felt that the people involved in the Arrowverse shows *got* Superman in a way that WB just never did. And granted, they are very different beasts with different budgets and objectives, but they certainly did capture the tone and spirit of Superman - which was further helped by Blake Neely's amazing scores. (And the scores of the many other composers who worked on these shows, whose name I'm currently blanking but want to ensure have been acknowledged.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxom 1974 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Oh yeah. Arrowverse has flaws, sure, but the basic soul of the characters, and in so many ways, the casting of those characters, they got right. Especially with Superman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlyaP Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 48 minutes ago, Jaxom 1974 said: Oh yeah. Arrowverse has flaws, sure, but the basic soul of the characters, and in so many ways, the casting of those characters, they got right. Especially with Superman. The casting was magnificent, was it not? Tyler Hoechlin, Grant Gustin, Stephen Amell, Emily Bett Rickards, Josh Segarra, Alex Kingston, Caity Lotz, Lexa Doig, and Brandon Routh (who absolutely *shined* in his time in the Arrowverse) were all standouts in my mind. And the composers they found! Blake Neely, Nathanial Blume, Sherri Chung, Daniel James Chan, Dan Romer, Tony Kanal, Stephen Perkins, the people Berlanti and co. found to bring musical life to all these shows was remarkable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlyaP Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 (I was pleased as hell to see Josh Segarra recently in She-Hulk, where he got to show off his comic chops, and I can't wait to see what he brings to Scream IV.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Does comic Flash mope a lot and forget how he beats villains and has to be reminded again and again by others? Because that is how the CW Flash was written? And it is what turned me off the show eventually. Stephen Amell was good in Arrow and other actors were good over the years, but there were some dreadful ones, too. The girl that played Oliver's daughter is one example. I barely made it through the final season. Superman & Lois has been at least a step above all other Arrowverse shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadlines? What Deadlines? Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 On 12/15/2022 at 2:10 AM, Ran said: That he has a sense of humor is certainly one of the things that greatly separates Snyder's po-faced take on god-like Superman vs. Cavill's preferred take that hews closer to the Christopher Reeves benchmark. That's not how I'd describe it but OK. Speaking as a fan, every copy of Superman '78 should be burned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 I’d say Donner’s Superman, compared to what the hell else superhero movies and tv shows were doing at the time, is like a sort of miracle. Holy shit I grew up having to watch the Spider-Man live action tv show! You kids don’t know how good you got it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadlines? What Deadlines? Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Oh, I was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Heh I remember watch taped off the TV VHS tapes of that spider man show in the early 90's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 18 hours ago, IlyaP said: (I was pleased as hell to see Josh Segarra recently in She-Hulk, where he got to show off his comic chops, and I can't wait to see what he brings to Scream IV.) Wouldn't that be Scream V actually? I am sorta sure there are already four Scream movies out there. Scream 1 (High School) Scream 2 (College) Scream 3 (Hollywood, Jay and Silent Bob cameo) Then there was this one with Hayden Panettierre I think. That would be four movies, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 58 minutes ago, A Horse Named Stranger said: Wouldn't that be Scream V actually? I am sorta sure there are already four Scream movies out there. Scream 1 (High School) Scream 2 (College) Scream 3 (Hollywood, Jay and Silent Bob cameo) Then there was this one with Hayden Panettierre I think. That would be four movies, no? The recently did another one, confusingly called Scream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Ah, ok, I am getting too old for this apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGP Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Money on Gunn and Safran ending any further association with Ezra. Probably trying to be careful about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlyaP Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 1 hour ago, A Horse Named Stranger said: Ah, ok, I am getting too old for this apparently. When the score came out, a few fans got together and actually made alternate covers that said 'Scream V' or 'Scream 5' instead of Scream, for very obvious reasons. I don't know why they did it either, given how almost good the movie was (the final act is embarrassingly bad). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 3 hours ago, JGP said: Money on Gunn and Safran ending any further association with Ezra. Probably trying to be careful about it. I mean this seemed like a foregone conclusion even before. Unless you mean actually cancelling the flash movie's release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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