Fragile Bird Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 32 minutes ago, Derfel Cadarn said: Maybe all the flag-waving fucks are camping out in London and so never voted! That’s funny, I just heard an interview on the CBC of a Canadian woman who’s been camping out somewhere on the route (I missed the start of the interview) since Wednesday, for various boring reasons, and she actually mentioned all the 80 year olds who’ve showed up to join the crowd. Derfel Cadarn and maarsen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pebble thats Stubby Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 so how long before they try once more to Bring back Boris? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted May 5, 2023 Author Share Posted May 5, 2023 The Daily Mail continues to report on parralel timelines ants and Zorral 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 36 minutes ago, Pebble thats Stubby said: so how long before they try once more to Bring back Boris? i don't know about bringing back boris, but they will definitely be eating their young. Spockydog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted May 5, 2023 Author Share Posted May 5, 2023 Ukip gone Which Tyler, Sophelia and Zorral 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 Which Tyler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 Rishi Sunak Falls Victim to his Own ‘War on Woke’ Quote Most elections, like most wars, are won and lost long before battle actually commences. Long term political, demographic and economic shifts almost always matter much more to the final outcome than any one leaflet, attack ad, or campaign gaffe. There are few better examples of this than yesterday’s local elections. In the months running up to polling day, Rishi Sunak’s party and its ideological cheerleaders tried desperately to start a series of ‘culture wars’ on everything from immigration, to the BBC, to trans rights. As voters told pollsters that their overwhelming priorities were dealing with surging prices, falling wages and an increasingly broken public sector, the Conservatives instead spent months talking about unisex bathrooms, small boats, and Gary Lineker. In the weeks leading up to polling day, as Labour and Liberal Democrat activists poured onto doorsteps with promises to fix Britain’s broken economy, The Sun newspaper instead splashed on a claim that ‘BRITS SAY NO TO WOKE’ while suggesting that voters were set to ‘reject woke Labour’. Meanwhile the conservative academic Matthew Goodwin toured broadcast studios pushing his theory that the liberal-left ‘new elite’ had become completely detached from the public mood. In reality the complete opposite was the case. While the Conservative party and its cheerleaders banged on ever more loudly about its ‘war on woke’, voters have increasingly headed in the opposite direction. As the nation’s leading pollster Sir John Curtice told the Byline Times in an interview this week, “If you look at the long term trends, anti-woke views are becoming less and less common”. “You are chasing a declining zeitgeist, because in the end, one of the reasons why ‘anti-woke’ folk are so upset is because certain things that once upon a time nobody questioned, like the idea that same sex relationships are not a good idea… are no longer commonly held views. “On this whole argument about diversity, attitudes have shifted and they have shifted in a ‘woke’ direction.” This is not just a recent development. Former Prime Minister David Cameron first identified the way the country was heading way back in 2005 when he became Conservative party leader. His attempts to reform the party’s image with younger, university educated, and increasingly socially liberal and globally aware voters were derided at the time by the press as an attempt to “hug a hoodie”. However, they were decisive in helping bring the party back to power after more than a decade in the wilderness. Yet since the Brexit referendum, Cameron’s party has abandoned all such attempts and instead sought to repeatedly pump a few more gasps of air back into the gradually deflating coalition of older, more socially conservative voters that helped to win the Brexit referendum and 2019 general election. The results from yesterday’s local elections suggest that this strategy has now finally run out of breath. Poobah 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 6 hours ago, Spockydog said: Rishi Sunak Falls Victim to his Own ‘War on Woke’ [snip] 8 hours ago, Derfel Cadarn said: Ukip gone [snip] These two posts are telling the same story. The Tories, for years, were worried about being outflanked on the right by UKIP and various other lunatics. Now, there's no good reason to vote for those parties because the Conservative front bench are positioned to the right of where UKIP was back in the 2010s. But that has put off middle-of-the-road voters, not because they're repulsed by these policies but because the Tories - having been in government for so long - just have no ideas to address those voters' real priorities. All they talk about is issues of ideological purity. They have literally nothing to say to huge swathes of the electorate: anyone under 40, for example, would struggle to find a single Tory policy that speaks to their concerns. Spockydog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Drewy Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/may/06/head-of-uks-leading-anti-monarchy-group-arrested-at-coronation-protest Head of Anti-Monarchy group arrested at coronation protest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Which Tyler Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 40 minutes ago, Ser Drewy said: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/may/06/head-of-uks-leading-anti-monarchy-group-arrested-at-coronation-protest Head of Anti-Monarchy group arrested at coronation protest. And that's just for a "not my king" with no swearing. I don't particularly support the protests (but nor do I condemn them); but unlike QEII's funeral, this IS the right time and place. I fully support their right to protest here and in this way. I do NOT support the fascist policies seeking to ban them - these policies and OTT reactions have definitely shifted me into the anti-monarchy camp. Prince of the North, mormont, ants and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted May 6, 2023 Author Share Posted May 6, 2023 From Sky News: ”It is the first time Prince Harry has been seen with his relatives in public since he criticised Charles, the Queen, William and the Princess of Wales in his memoir, Spare.” Interesting that the men get referred to by name, and the women by title. https://news.sky.com/story/prince-harry-and-prince-andrew-arrive-at-kings-coronation-12874392 Mindwalker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 I just put on the BBC for a moment to see an elderly man being surrounded by giant screens at the front of a church before being undressed by strangers. What a load of bollocks. Zorral 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 I wouldn'T call BFC elderly... Mr. Chatywin et al. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 Which Tyler, Luzifer's right hand, ants and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 Do we really need live coverage of this freakshow on both BBC1 and BBC2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 2 hours ago, Which Tyler said: I do NOT support the fascist policies seeking to ban them - these policies and OTT reactions have definitely shifted me into the anti-monarchy camp. Pretty sure you won't be the only one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 Fantastic ceremony and parade. Really well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 Hands up anyone who stood to attention and bellowed out the oath, whilst offering a Benny Hill salute to Chaz and Caz. Derfel Cadarn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luzifer's right hand Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Raja said: A win-win for right leaning people I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted May 6, 2023 Author Share Posted May 6, 2023 21 minutes ago, Heartofice said: Fantastic ceremony and parade. Really well done. For £100 mill, I’d expect so. Wonder what might have been a better use of that money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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