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[Jon Weirgaryen]

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On The Winds of Winter:

When will "The Winds of Winter" be published? What's the latest news?

Nobody knows. Current rumours say October 2015, but so far every rumor has been wrong.

The best bet is to follow GRRM's blog.

GRRM himself has expressed in December, 2014:
Look, I've said before, and I will say again, I don't play games with news about the books. I know how many people are waiting, how long they have been waiting, how anxious they are. I am still working on WINDS. When it's done, I will announce it here [on GRRM's site]. There won't be any clues to decipher, any codes or hidden meanings, the announcement will be straightforward and to the point. I won't time it to coincide with Xmas or Valentine's Day or Lincoln's Birthday, the book will not rise from the dead with Jesus on Easter Sunday. When it is done, I will say that's it is done, on whatever day I happen to finish.I don't know how I can make it any clearer.

What's the material that has already been published from The Winds of Winter?
Spoiler tagged for obvious reasons

* Barristan I, published in 2013 paperback edition of A Dance with Dragons
* Tyrion I, read at Miscon 2012
* Victarion I, read at Miscon 2012
* Barristan II, read at Boscone 50 in 2012
* Tyrion II, released in the 2014 update of A World of Ice and Fire, the official app
* Theon I, released on GRRM's website in 2011, also released in the back of several A Dance with Dragons paperback editions
* Arianne I, released on GRRM's website in 2013
* Arianne II, read at Worldcon 2011
* Mercy, removed from A Dance with Dragons, placed in The Winds of Winter, released on GRRM's website.
* Aeron I, mentioned by GRRM on his blog to have been removed from A Dance with Dragons in 2010, reserved for The Winds of Winter
* Alayne I, removed from A Dance with Dragons, placed in The Winds of Winter. Recently posted on GRRMs website, currently available for reading.
* Prologue, featuring an appearance by Jeyne Westerling. It is currently unknown who the POV will be for this prologue.


In total, we know about 11 chapters

On the tales of Dunk & Egg, and links to the main series:

How many Dunk & Egg stories have been published? Where are they published in?

Three Dunk and Egg stories are published at the moment. For now, they are

1. The Hedge Knight
A short story to be found either in "Legends, edited by Robert Silverberg" or in "Dreamsongs II by George R.R. Martin"

There is also a rendition as a graphic novel by the same name: "The Hedge Knight".

2. The Sworn Sword
A short story to be found either in "Legends II - Dragon, Sword and King, edited by Robert Silverberg" or in the original hard- and softcover editions of "Legends II" from 2003 & 2004

There is also a rendition as a graphic novel by the same name: "The Sworn Sword".

3. The Mystery Knight
A short story to be found either in "Warriors, edited by George R.R. Martin and Gardner Dozois" or in the paperback "Warriors 1, edited by George R.R. Martin and Gardner Dozois"

No graphic novel... yet.




Two more Dunk & Egg stories yet to be written have already been described. They are known as "The She-wolves of Winterfell" and "The Village Hero". Both of these are working titles, though, not final titles.

Four additional titles have been mentioned by Martin: "The Sellsword", "The Champion", "The Kingsguard", and "The Lord Commander".

Will the Dunk & Egg tales be published in one book?
The first three tales of Dunk and Egg will be published in one book, titled "A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms", to be released in english on 6-10-2015. In some other languages, however, it has already been published. "A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms" will contain pages filled with artwork, which the other versions don't have.


Was Dunk ever knighted by Ser Arlan?
In spoiler tags:

No. Whether he was knighted later in life, is unknown, but likely, given his status as Lord Commander of the Kingsguard.

Are any descendants of Dunk still alive in the main series today?
Yes. GRRM has expressed that we'd meet one of Dunk's descendants. Brienne of Tarth finds the shield Dunk owns in The Hedge Knight. Hodor is often heavily suspected to be a descendant of Dunk's due to his enormous size, and the fact that people believe the young girl and the "knight as tall as Hodor" in the vision Bran sees in A Dance with Dragons are Old Nan (in her youth) and Dunk, and that the event is to take place during The She-Wolves of Winterfell.
Small Paul (from the Night's Watch) has also been suggested to be a descendant of Dunks, due to his size and the mention of "thick as a castle wall", which is also used to describe Dunk.


On the main series:

When was Robert Baratheon declared King?
Around the time of the Battle of the Trident.


Why were Ned and Robert at the Eyrie when mad king Aerys II sent to Jon Arryn for their heads?
It is true Ned and Robert were past their squiring and fostering age, when they visited Jon Arryn together at the Eyrie at that certain time. There is clarification on this both in TWoIaF and an older SSM telling that they liked to spend some of their time there together.


What is the right of the first night?
The right of the first night, better known as droit du seigneur (which only looks French, although it is English usage, the French use different terminology) or jus primae noctis is a medieval custom that has been abolished in Westeros (by Jaeherys I & Septon Barth) as in the real world (apart from a few small islands in the English channel).
It allows the lord to be the first to consummate any marriage before the husband, thus potentially to sire numerous bastard children. In the real world, husbands would pay a fee to their lord for not making use of this right.


What is "guest right" and why is it so important?
The guest right is a sacred law of hospitality. When a guest, no matter the station of birth, eats the food and drinks the drink beneath the host's roof, the guest right is invoked. Bread and salt are the traditional provisions.
When invoked, neither the guest is allowed to do harm to his host, nor is the host allowed to do harm to his guest for the length of the guest's stay. For either to do so would be to break a sacred covenant that is believed to invoke the wrath of the Gods both old and new. Both the teachings of the old gods and the Faith of the Seven hold to this. Even robber lords and wreckers are bound by the ancient laws of hospitality.

Guest gifts can be given when the guests depart, ending the guest right. House Manderly practises this tradition in A Dance with Dragons.

Breaking the guest right is seen as a terrible thing. The example stated in the books concern the Rat Cook. A cook in the Night's Watch who killed the kings son, and cooked the son in a pie he served to the king, leading to the unknowingly eating his own son. The gods punished the Rat Cook, by turning him into a giant rat who could only feed by eating its own young. The gods did not punish the cook for feeding the king his own son, but for killing a man beneath his own roof.


Does the Wall block warging?
It appears so. Jon Snow isn't capable of connecting with Ghost anymore, when they have the Wall in between them, nor can Jon, warged in Ghost, feel Summer when Summer is north of the Wall, and Jon and Ghost south.

Whether this is the same for each warg/skinchanger, or depends on the strength of the individual, is a matter of discussion. It does appear that Bran, warged into the weirwood net, can see south of the Wall, whilst being north of it.


What's the kindness Jaime never did?
Jaime is referring to Tysha, and how Tyrion believed that Jaime bought Tysha's services to make Tyrion into a man (making him lose his virginity). Jaime never paid Tysha, however, as Tysha wasn't a whore. In other words, a kindness that Jaime never did.


In A Dance with Dragons, Septon Chayle is at the Wall. Wasn't he the septon at Winterfell? Didn't he die in A Clash of Kings?
Indeed. This is an error., Septon Cellador is the Septon at Castle Black. Septon Chayle, as far as is known, is dead.


If the gates in King's Landing were closed, how did Arya get to the harbor? You need to cross a gate...
A well known issue. People have tried to find explanations for it, but most have not yet been satisfied. Here's the most recent given explanation.


How come Cersei and Margaery need a Kingsguard Knight to defend them in their trials in A Dance with Dragons, while Gregor Clegane, not a Kingsguard Knight, was allowed to defend Cersei in Tyrion's trial in A Storm of Swords?
Because in Tyrion's trial, it wasn't Cersei who stood accused.. Tyrion was accused, Cersei the accuser. Tyrion didn't necessarily need to use a Kingsguard knight in that trial because he isn't royalty.

In Cersei's case in Dance (and in Margaery's case, should she opt for a trial by combat, should her first trial fail), Cersei is the Queen Regent, Margaery the Queen. They are royalty, and it is them who stand accued. They are not the accusers. Thus, they need a Kingsguard to defend them.


If knights are custom of the followers of the Seven, why there are knights in the North (Old Gods) and in the Iron Islands (Drowned God)?
There aren't many. So far we know of a single Ironborn knight. Knights from the North spring forth from a few sources:

1. White Harbor and the Manderlys
The Manderys in White harbor brought the new gods and Southern customs along, so knighthood is more common there.

2. Houses near the Neck
Houses who have business with the South may have a few knights, as customs mingle.

3. War returnees
Some Northerners simply get knighted by Southern nobility during war time, it cannot be helped. Ser Jorah Mormont is an example.

4. Hedge Knights and Freeriders
People living the life of a hedge knight or freeriders in service in the South might face the same treatment, when the do too many chivalrous deeds, although an example is missing here.



Who can make a knight?
Any knight can make a knight. As knighthood is a form of distinction, the higher in renown or social status the maker, the better for the image of the knight made. Kings can also knight people, but lords cannot (unless they have once been knighted themselves).

So for example, King Robert Baratheon, knighted in his youth, can knight people (and has) because he is a knight himself, and because he is a king. King Baelor I, a king, but not a knight, could have knighted anyone he wanted to. Lord Eddard Stark, never knighted himself, can't knight anyone.


Which Targaryens had deformed children?

* King Maegor I Targaryen (multiple malformed children by multiple wives)
* Daemon Targaryen (a malformed son by Lady Laena Velaryon)
* Rhaenyra Targaryen (a malformed stillborn daughter, Visenya, by Prince Daemon, according to Mushroom)
* Daenerys Targaryen (a malformed stillborn son, Rhaego, by Khal Drogo)




How big do dragons grow?
Dragons seem just to grow if they get enough food and space.


How old are Dany's dragons as of the end of Dance?
Born in early 299 AC, the dragons are currently around 1,5 years old.


Who is Jon Snow's mother?
Have a look into the first post of the current (fixed) R+L=J thread in the General ASoIaF forum. It links to collections of theories on Jon Snow's parentage.



What is a masterly house?
Masterly houses are beneath lordly houses. They cannot dispense justice, and they technically do not own the land, they administer it. Deepwood Mott is a masterly house I believe, they administer the Wolfswood but cannot dispense justice.


Who are the marcher lords?
Marcher lords are powerful lords who guard region near border with Dorne, known as the Dornish Marches. They have large keeps and maintain large forces, to defend lands of the Reach and Stormlands in case of Dornish attack.

Marcher lords:
- in the Stormlands:
House Selmy, House Dondarrion, House Swann, House Caron
- in the Reach:
House Tarly, possibly House Peake


Any other questions:

Is The Ice Dragon part of the asoiaf universe?

No, it is not.

Continue

[stateofdissipation]

Did Lysa take her moon tea for Littlefinger's child after her marriage?

[EternET]

Did Lysa take her moon tea for Littlefinger's child after her marriage?

Lysa took "moon tea" after LF was chased from Riverrun, and she revealed her pregnancy to her father (Hoster Tully) . It was way before her marriage.

[stateofdissipation]

Lysa took "moon tea" after LF was chased from Riverrun, and she revealed her pregnancy to her father (Hoster Tully) . It was way before her marriage.

Cat, on Hoster's death watch, figures out that Hoster is talking to Lysa about losing a child. Cat recalls that Lysa never lost a child at Riverrun for Hoster to comfort her. Then she goes on to recall that after the wedding Cat and Lysa thought they were pregnant. When Lysa turned out not to be pregnant all joy left her. Cat deduces that Lysa had been pregnant that first time.

We know that Hoster was comforting her about the moon tea from you will have more sons, trueborn sons...

I know the Littlefinger getting chased away way before her marriage and her being forced to take moon tea "after." That doesn't conflict with Lysa's losing a child at Riverrun following her marriage.

[Rhaenys_Targaryen]

Cat, on Hoster's death watch, figures out that Hoster is talking to Lysa about losing a child. Cat recalls that Lysa never lost a child at Riverrun for Hoster to comfort her. Then she goes on to recall that after the wedding Cat and Lysa thought they were pregnant. When Lysa turned out not to be pregnant all joy left her. Cat deduces that Lysa had been pregnant that first time.

We know that Hoster was comforting her about the moon tea from you will have more sons, trueborn sons...

I know the Littlefinger getting chased away way before her marriage and her being forced to take moon tea "after." That doesn't conflict with Lysa's losing a child at Riverrun following her marriage.

Realise that Catelyn has no idea of Lysa having been pregnant with LG's child. Cat thinks that Lysa had been pregnant, but lost the child..

Here would have been no reason for Hoster to wait with aborting Lysa's child by LF, once he learned of the existence.. waiting would be dangerous, as it would leave room for people to discover it. LF was send away from Riverun multiple months before Lysa's wedding to Jon. Had she still been pregnant, she would have been visibly pregnant.. she was not, as Cat never knew about it.

[The Creeping Knight]

I'll ask again

Do House Cassel have their own land? Or are they a sworn house who reside in Winterfell?

[stateofdissipation]

Realise that Catelyn has no idea of Lysa having been pregnant with LG's child. Cat thinks that Lysa had been pregnant, but lost the child..

Here would have been no reason for Hoster to wait with aborting Lysa's child by LF, once he learned of the existence.. waiting would be dangerous, as it would leave room for people to discover it. LF was send away from Riverun multiple months before Lysa's wedding to Jon. Had she still been pregnant, she would have been visibly pregnant.. she was not, as Cat never knew about it.

Catelyn believes that Hoster was speaking of comforting Lysa after she lost the child following her marriage to Jon Arryn.

If Cat was right about when Lysa lost the child and Hoster comforting her, Lysa was months pregnant when she was married. Cat commented on Jon Arryn needing a young wife proven to be fertile. A visibly pregnant Lysa would prove her to be fertile.

Littlefinger was sent away when Lysa revealed she was pregnant. That could have been for what he had done. It could also be he had done what Hoster needed him to do.

[Lost Melnibonean]

I'll ask again

Do House Cassel have their own land? Or are they a sworn house who reside in Winterfell?

No lands for Cassel are referred to explicitly in the books. The Cassals are household knights/lances sworn to House Stark.

[Gomagoti]

in DwD, Melisandre mentions that she doesn't eat, and needs to remind herself to do so to not freak everyone else out. is there any other mention of this sort of thing with her-does she sleep?use the loo?etc.

[Lost Melnibonean]

in DwD, Melisandre mentions that she doesn't eat, and needs to remind herself to do so to not freak everyone else out. is there any other mention of this sort of thing with her-does she sleep?use the loo?etc.

Not sure about the loo, but IIRC she doesn't sleep, she just dozes and stares at the fire.

[Jon Weirgaryen]

Not sure about the loo, but IIRC she doesn't sleep, she just dozes and stares at the fire.

I am more worried about Stannis not eating.

[Ser Leftwich]

Cat, on Hoster's death watch, figures out that Hoster is talking to Lysa about losing a child. Cat recalls that Lysa never lost a child at Riverrun for Hoster to comfort her. Then she goes on to recall that after the wedding Cat and Lysa thought they were pregnant. When Lysa turned out not to be pregnant all joy left her. Cat deduces that Lysa had been pregnant that first time.

We know that Hoster was comforting her about the moon tea from you will have more sons, trueborn sons...

I know the Littlefinger getting chased away way before her marriage and her being forced to take moon tea "after." That doesn't conflict with Lysa's losing a child at Riverrun following her marriage.

Hoster would have left to fight the wars shortly after the weddings, the same as Ned.

So Hoster was not at Riverrun to comfort Lysa then either. Hence Catelyn deducing that it must have been with LF much earlier.

Littlefinger was sent away when Lysa revealed she was pregnant. That could have been for what he had done. It could also be he had done what Hoster needed him to do.

Littlefinger was sent away after the duel and was well enough to travel.

What cryptic thing was it that "Hoster needed him to do?"

[Dire Dawg]

If the gates in King's Landing were closed, how did Arya get to the harbor? You need to cross a gate...

A well known issue. People have tried to find explanations for it, but most have not yet been satisfied. Here's the most recent given explanation.

I am interested in this discussion, but there isn't a link. Does anyone have the link to the discussion or explanation?

Thanks!

[Jon Fossoway]

Is there any thread concerning the number 13 in Planetos?

Night´s King was the 13 commander of the NW; Daemon and Aemond´s fight was preceeded by a 13 days wait; the Qarthi council has 13 members; Night King and NQ suppodsely rules the Nightfor for 13 years.

Its maybe that GM likes the number?

[stateofdissipation]

Hoster would have left to fight the wars shortly after the weddings, the same as Ned.

So Hoster was not at Riverrun to comfort Lysa then either. Hence Catelyn deducing that it must have been with LF much earlier.

Littlefinger was sent away after the duel and was well enough to travel.

What cryptic thing was it that "Hoster needed him to do?"

Lysa had miscarried five times, twice in the Eyrie and three times at King's Landing... but never at Riverrun where lord Hoster would have been at hand to comfort her. Never unless...Lysa had been with child that first time...

She and her sister had been married on the same day and left in their father's care when their new husbands had ridden off to rejoin Robert's rebellion.---aSoS ss page 38.

Everyone thought that it (sending Littlefinger away) was because of that stupid duel with Brandon Stark, but that wasn't so. Father said I ought to thank the gods that such a great lord as Jon Arryn was willing to take me soiled....--aSoS bg page 537.

He needed a new wife if house Arryn was to continue... a young wife proved to be fertile...aSoS ss page 39

Lysa's pregnancy made her suitable for Arryn's new wife. If Lysa was not given moon tea before marrying Jon Arryn. as Cat suggests, Lysa's pregnancy was not an accident. Allowing Lysa to keep the child until after the wedding definitely proved her fertile.

[Rhaenys_Targaryen]

Lysa had miscarried five times, twice in the Eyrie and three times at King's Landing... but never at Riverrun where lord Hoster would have been at hand to comfort her. Never unless...Lysa had been with child that first time...

She and her sister had been married on the same day and left in their father's care when their new husbands had ridden off to rejoin Robert's rebellion.---aSoS ss page 38.

Everyone thought that it (sending Littlefinger away) was because of that stupid duel with Brandon Stark, but that wasn't so. Father said I ought to thank the gods that such a great lord as Jon Arryn was willing to take me soiled....--aSoS bg page 537.

He needed a new wife if house Arryn was to continue... a young wife proved to be fertile...aSoS ss page 39

Lysa's pregnancy made her suitable for Arryn's new wife. If Lysa was not given moon tea before marrying Jon Arryn. as Cat suggests, Lysa's pregnancy was not an accident. Allowing Lysa to keep the child until after the wedding definitely proved her fertile.

Lysa's pregnancy was certainly an accident.. Jon Arryn didn't need a new wife until after the Battle of the Bells. Which happened months after LF had been sent away from Riverrun.

You suggest that Hoster wanted LF to sleep with Lysa and get her pregnant, at a time where Jon Arryn still have two living heirs. Next, you propose that Lysa remained pregnant for multiple months, (at which time, the pregnancy would have been visible), until Jon Arryn's heirs both died (which Hoster could not have predicted), and he begs for Hosters help.

Which also doesn't make the fact that Jon's marriage to Lysa was arranged after the Battle of the Bells (death of his last heir), while Ned's marriage to Catelyn seems to have been arranged before.

[Lost Melnibonean]

I am interested in this discussion, but there isn't a link. Does anyone have the link to the discussion or explanation?

Thanks!

I don't recall a dedicated thread, but here's the issue...

Every day since her escape from the Red Keep, Arya had visited each of the seven city gates in turn. The Dragon Gate, the Lion Gate, and the Old Gate were closed and barred. The Mud Gate and the Gate of the Gods were open, but only to those who wanted to enter the city; the guards let no one out.

Arya V, Game 65

But Arya is able to walk up to a ship at the docks. . .

The wharfs were oddly quiet when Arya got there. She spied another pair of gold cloaks, walking side by side through the fish market, but they never so much as looked at her. Half the stalls were empty, and it seemed to her that there were fewer ships at dock than she remembered. Out on the Blackwater, three of the king's war galleys moved in formation, gold-painted hulls splitting the water as their oars rose and fell. Arya watched them for a bit, then began to make her way along the river.

When she saw the guardsmen on the third pier, in grey woolen cloaks trimmed with white satin, her heart almost stopped in her chest. The sight of Winterfell's colors brought tears to her eyes. Behind them, a sleek three-banked trading galley rocked at her moorings. Arya could not read the name painted on the hull; the words were strange, Myrish, Braavosi, perhaps even High Valyrian. She grabbed a passing longshoreman by the sleeve. "Please," she said, "what ship is this?"

"She's the Wind Witch, out of Myr," the man said.

"She's still here," Arya blurted. The longshoreman gave her a queer look, shrugged, and walked away. Arya ran toward the pier. The Wind Witch was the ship Father had hired to take her home . . . still waiting! She'd imagined it had sailed ages ago.

Two of the guardsmen were dicing together while the third walked rounds, his hand on the pommel of his sword. Ashamed to let them see her crying like a baby, she stopped to rub at her eyes. Her eyes her eyes her eyes, why did . . .

Look with your eyes, she heard Syrio whisper.

Arya looked. She knew all of her father's men. The three in the grey cloaks were strangers. "You," the one walking rounds called out. "What do you want here, boy?" The other two looked up from their dice.

It was all Arya could do not to bolt and run, but she knew that if she did, they would be after her at once. She made herself walk closer. They were looking for a girl, but he thought she was a boy. She'd be a boy, then. "Want to buy a pigeon?" She showed him the dead bird.

"Get out of here," the guardsman said.

Arya did as he told her. She did not have to pretend to be frightened. Behind her, the men went back to their dice.

Arya V, Game 65

But as Tyrion's observations of the hovels outside the Mud Gate shortly before the Battle of the Blackwater, and as Stannis's attempts to breach the walls of King's Landing from the Blackwater demonstrate, the docks were not within the walls of King's Landing.

[Dire Dawg]

Snip

Thanks, I guess it is unlikely that she got back into the red keep and used the bolt hole she found in AGOT. Are there any theories on how she got out?

However, I do find it odd that the docks are not located within the city walls, wouldn't that be a good way to keep the city supplied by sea if there was a siege?

[Lost Melnibonean]

Thanks, I guess it is unlikely that she got back into the red keep and used the bolt hole she found in AGOT. Are there any theories on how she got out?

However, I do find it odd that the docks are not located within the city walls, wouldn't that be a good way to keep the city supplied by sea if there was a siege?

She would have had to get into the castle to get to the bolt hole out the sewer, and the bolt hole wouldn't have done her any good since it doesn't exit the city, which only adds to the problem since it emptied into the river!

[Shuvuuia]

Does the general population/other kingsguard know that Ser Duncan the Tall is the same guy who caused the trial at the Ashford?